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 Posted: Tue Nov 20th, 2007 06:58 pm

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Should defenders be pushing up at a young age?
I know that old players do this, but should younger players do this as well?

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It depends on the skill level, not really age.
If players understand the game and are progressing in skills, then yes this should be taught. If they can't even dribble a ball yet, it may be too early to be worrying about tactical deployment of your team.
I have seen a U10 team that was OUTSTANDING at pushing up and understanding why they did it.
They constantly caught the other team offsides.
This was a select travel team with a great coach.

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I think it depends on your players as well. You may find yourself with a handful of talented kids that are more advanced than others.

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True...
We have found that this really ties into recovering on both ends.
If defenders are lagging back after the ball is moved out of the defensive zone, the forwards will also tend to lag in the offensive zone.
Making sure that BOTH ends understand how to recover quickly is the key.
Every coach will have 1 - 3 players that just have that "lazy streak" in them.
They walk back after the play has moved on.
A little hustle goes a long way.
There are also many drills to help players understanding that they need to hustle back after a play.

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 I agree it depends on the skill level and a bit on the age since some refs don't call offsides with younger ages.

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soccertr wrote: True...
We have found that this really ties into recovering on both ends.
If defenders are lagging back after the ball is moved out of the defensive zone, the forwards will also tend to lag in the offensive zone.
Making sure that BOTH ends understand how to recover quickly is the key.
Every coach will have 1 - 3 players that just have that "lazy streak" in them.
They walk back after the play has moved on.
A little hustle goes a long way.
There are also many drills to help players understanding that they need to hustle back after a play.

Do you know where I could find some of those types of drills?  Thanks!

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 Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2008 11:46 am

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We just made the ROPE drill a forum of its own so you can view it better.
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I have a bit stronger team this year than last. Should I stick with the formation I used last year when I had to hide players or teach a new formation to accomidate the better players that I got this year. Last year I used a 2-2-3, Hiding my weakest players at midfield next to my strongest player. This year hiding players is not a big issue.  I would like to place my 2 strongest players both at midfield so they can win balls in the middle and help on defence as well as getting numbers up on attacks. I was kicking around the idea of a 3-2-2(loading my defence up but also using less skilled  players in defence) with like I said my 2 strongest/fastest/aggressive at midfield. Which would leave me only 2 medium/high skilled players up front as forwards. I have also kicked the idea around of a 2-3-2 formation with one of the 2 strongest at midfield/stopper and the other as a center forward with 2 medium skilled players on the wings at midfield. Oh and I have a weak goalie. 1st time player that wants to do nothing else but be a goalie. Help!:? I only have 2 weeks until games begin and I need some advise!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 11:34 am

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First, don't panic.
I didn't see an age group that you are coaching and that would help to know.
I am assuming since you are playing 8v8 that they might be U12's?
The best thing I can recommend is to take the weaker players and focus them on defensive skills.  Drill them over and over on proper "jockeying " form and help them understand how a first and second defender work together.  Make sure they are pushing up on every play.
It is much harder to teach a weaker player how to be a strong striker than it is to learn basic defending. This will also give them a boost of self confidence. Teach them how to "give up avenues" to the sides and push attackers to the sidelines.
One drill is to have attackers come at them over and over.
They are not allowed to touch the ball.
They must "jockey" the attacker keeping themselves between the goal and the ball.
This teaches them patience and not to "stab in" which is the biggest mistake younger weaker players make.
Teach them to wait for the "big mistake". The point when the ball is far away from the attacker and they know they can win it.

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Do you have any advise about the foramtion? U9 Boys.:dude:

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If your defenders can learn to push up and become offensive supports, and not just sitting back watching, then your 2-2-3 thought would be fine. In young players they have a tendency to just "quit playing" once the ball is out of "their zone".
Keep this thought process simple for them.

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I  Played them (my U9 team)in the 2-2-3 formation and they dominated the other team winning 5-0. Our goalie got mad because and I quote"I only touched the ball once". My problem was trying to get the defenders to come up field and stay there. I would get them close to the center circle then I would turn around and they were back infront of the penalty box! I guess I will have to try the rope drill with them. The team we played was REALLY weak but my boys really thought they did something beating them. I am not sure how to keep them level headed since that is most likely the weakest team we will play, without discouraging them about the win. There was plenty of areas that would not have gone that well, if we had played a normal strength team.:?


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